MAKING FRITTATA Podcast with Maria Liberati

Zucchini Frittata: Baked or Fried?

I was surprised when a friend mentioned baking a zucchini frittata using a recipe from Ottolenghi’s Simple. Intrigued, I pulled out my copy of the cookbook to investigate. Could Ottolenghi, with his Italian heritage, have baked a frittata? (I’m joking, of course—I deeply admire his work!) But honestly, if I were to bake a mixture of zucchini and eggs, I’d simply call it a zucchini bake.

In Italian, frittata stems from fritta, meaning fried. Similarly, fritto (masculine) as in fritto misto translates to “mixed fried food.” But enough Italian grammar—this post is about the frittata, not linguistics.

Frittata Talk with Maria Liberati

Recently, I had the pleasure of being interviewed by Maria Liberati for her podcast. From my Covid state-wide lockdown in Melbourne, I connected with Maria in Pennsylvania to discuss the humble yet versatile frittata. She came across an old post of mine, An Authentic Frittata, which I wrote for Janet Clarkson’s popular blog, The Old Foodie (back in December 2008). I’d nearly forgotten about it, but my thoughts on frittate (plural) remain the same.

We touched on Claudia Roden, a culinary hero of mine, though I disagree with her claim that frittate are uncommon in Sicily and Sardinia. In my experience, frittate are simple, everyday dishes found throughout Italy, though often so ordinary they don’t always make it into cookbooks. Also in Sicilian a frittata is called a Millassata. Could this be why Roden found so few references of recipes from Sicily?

The Art (and Simplicity) of Making a Frittata

In that The Old Foodie (back in December 2008) post, I began with:
“Every national cuisine has certain rules and customs.”
Baking a frittata in Italy, however, is not one of them.

But I understand why frying might seem intimidating. A classic frittata—like the zucchini and pecorino one I made recently—is cooked on the stovetop, flipped carefully, and finished on the other side. It’s not as scary as it sounds!

Here’s how I do it:

Sauté zucchini in extra virgin olive oil with garlic and parsley until just tender.

Beat eggs with a fork, add salt, pepper, and grated pecorino cheese, then mix in the zucchini.

Pour the mixture into a hot, oiled pan.

Use a spatula to gently press the top and lift the edges, allowing uncooked egg to flow underneath.

Cover the pan with a plate, flip the pan over.

Once set, invert the frittata onto a plate and slide it back into the pan to cook the other side.

For beginners, I recommend starting with a smaller pan and fewer eggs (six to eight max). A round pan works best for even cooking, and keeping the frittata manageable in size makes flipping much easier.

Regional Variations: North vs. South

Maria and I agreed that Italian cooking is highly regional, and this applies to frittate. Having grown up in Trieste with Sicilian roots, I’ve seen these differences firsthand.

Cuisine is localised, each region has prepared specialities based on their produce and cultural influences.

Trieste was a very important port  for much of that north eastern part of Italy that  were part of the Austro – Hungarian Empire. Surrounding countries that influenced the history and culture were Austria, Switzerland, France, Germany, and Croatia is not too far away.

Sicily was an important trade route in a strategic location in the Mediterranean and was settled by Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans, Carthaginians,  Arabs, Normans, French, Spaniards.

Fats: Butter or butter-oil blends in the north; olive oil in the south.

Ingredients: Northern frittate might feature prosciutto, cheese, or even apples, while southern versions lean heavily on vegetables like zucchini or ricotta.

Binders: Breadcrumbs are common in the south to absorb vegetable moisture; northern recipes sometimes add flour or milk.

Cheeses: Parmigiano in the north; pecorino, caciocavallo, or ricotta salata in the south.

Tradition Meets Experimentation

Cooking evolves, and while I respect traditional recipes, I’m open to thoughtful experimentation. For instance, my mother often overcooked vegetables, finding my sautéed ones too al dente. Yet, we can adapt traditional methods to suit modern tastes, like using Australian Warrigal greens in place of spinach. It’s about honoring tradition while embracing innovation.

This spring, I’m inspired by new produce—artichokes, zucchini flowers, spring peas—for my next frittate. Below is one I made with wild asparagus, a simple yet satisfying celebration of the season.

Thank you, Maria, for the opportunity to discuss such a delightful topic! For more on my frittata adventures, check out the links below or listen to our conversation on The Maria Liberati Show.

Below a photo of Warrigal greens.

Below is a frittata I cooked with wild asparagus.

Some links:

Recipes on my blog for making Frittata:

ASPARAGI DI BOSCO and FRITTATINA (Wild Asparagus continued, and Frittata)

WILD ASPARAGUS IN SICILY AND TUNIS (ASPARAGI SELVATICI)

BOOK SIGNING OF SICILIAN SEAFOOD COOKING AT READINGS (and Fennel Frittata)

FRITTATA: SAUSAGE and RICOTTA

SPRING PICNIC; Frittata with artichokes and asparagus

The Maria Liberati Show

Podcast: A Sicilian Frittata Story
 54 mins

This week Maria discusses the power of food to take us to new places – this time, to Sicily – where we’ll enjoy a simple frittata. Joining her today is Marisa Raniolo Wilkins, a passionate food writer, blogger and recipe developer from Sicily.

To hear this podcast, click HERE

 

 

 

 

 

 

IN PRAISE OF SEASONAL VEGETABLES

I love eating vegetables and a meal without them is unimaginable. The photos in this post are of some of the produce I bought last Saturday at my regular vendors stall in The Queen Victoria Market. I did not bother to put in potatoes, celery, carrots, herbs and the other fruit that I bought – I wanted to show in the photos the seasonal produce I am buying now and very much enjoying.

Vegetables have always been an important part of the Italian diet. There may be several reasons for this and without going into too much detail, Here are a few of them.

Culturally Italians have cooked vegetables in interesting ways: braise, grill, fry, boil and dress, roast, etc. whereas Anglo-Australians tended to primarily boil, steam, roast.

Historically Italians have cultivated and eaten a large variety of vegetables. The following vegetables are relatively new in Australia: fennel, chicory, broccoli, zucchini, eggplants, peppers, leafy vegetables for salads e.g. radicchio, romaine lettuce.  When I arrived in Australia the only common vegetables were cauliflowers, cabbages, carrots, pumpkins, peas and string beans.

Italians are very health-conscious. The Romans learned a great deal from the Ancient Greeks. Illnesses and other health problems were treated with herbal remedies and there was an interest with what one ate and when, the combination of foods and its effects on the body. This interest has continued and Italians are still very particular about their health especially the digestive system.

Economically vegetables are cheaper to grow than meat, which means they are also cheaper to buy and many Italians in years gone by could not afford to eat large quantities of meat; although fish was cheaper, some could still not afford to eat fish, either. Australia is said to ‘have ridden on the sheep’s back’ by the late 1830’s there were sheep in every colony and raising and eating meat is embedded in the Australian culinary culture.

Increasingly, ethical dilemmas and health concerns have caused many people to become vegetarians and I have many friends who are. I have had many conversations with people who are making an effort to eat less and less meat and I too, seem to be cooking meat less frequently – not that we have ever eaten very much meat in my house.

For a variety of reasons and perhaps coincidence being vegetarian is also getting some attention in the media and at events. As part of the Melbourne Food and Wine Festival, I attended an event at the Melbourne Town Hall where six speakers debated the topic Animals Should Be Off the Menu. For the proposition:  Peter Singer, Philip Wollen, Veronica Ridge. Against the proposition: Adrian Richardson, Fiona Chambers, Bruce McGregor. Those who attended were able to vote to decide the outcome of the debate and perhaps not surprisingly, the side arguing that animals should be off the menu, clearly won.

A few weeks after the debate Richard Cornish, a well-respected Melbourne journalist held in high esteem for his integrity, announced in The Age Epicure (Tuesday publication of The Age Melbourne newspaper) that he had given up eating flesh and had lost an incredible amount of weight. A photo of his healthy-looking face and beaming smile accompanied the article and said it all.

There are many posts on this blog about vegetables, how to clean and how to cook them, but far too many to list here.

Use the search buttons to find recipes for: artichokes, broad beans, cardoons, cavolo nero, chicory, cime di rape, celeriac, fennel, indivia (escarole, endives) kohlrabi, salad greens – frisée, also called curly endive, romaine, radicchio, radish etc.
Let’s not forget summer vegetables: eggplants, peppers, tomatoes, zucchini….

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